Posted by: maboulette | November 22, 2019

The Facts That Republican Don’t Want to See

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There are some statements made by the GOP at the impeachment hearing with the facts that show these statements were just plain false.


CALIFORNIA REP. DEVIN NUNES, the top Republican on the committee: “President Trump had good reason to be wary of Ukrainian election meddling against his campaign.”

THE FACTS: This theory that Ukrainians tampered in the US election and that Democrats cooperated in that effort is just not true.


Trump was told by his officials that this theory was “completely debunked” long before the president pressed Ukraine to investigate it anyway, according to Tom Bossert, Trump’s first homeland security adviser.

Based on evidence including a security firm’s findings that Russian agents had broken into the Democrats’ network and stolen emails, special counsel Robert Mueller indicted 12 members of Russia’s military intelligence agency and came to the conclusion that their operation sought to help Trump’s candidacy, not Hillary Clinton’s, as the conspiracy theorists and Trump have it.


NUNES: Trump also has good reason to be wary “of widespread corruption in that country.”

THE FACTS: This is pointing to the oft-made defense by Trump and the GOP that he withheld military aid to Ukraine because of concerns about corruption in that country. But the hearings have produced testimony showing that Trump was only focused on making Democrats (VP Biden who is a leading opponent in 2020 election),  the target of Ukrainian investigations.


Trump had $391 million in congressionally approved. assistance withheld from Ukraine from July to September.  Statements from witnesses show that Trump pressed Ukraine for a political “favor” to investigate Democrats (the Bidens) in exchange for the aid, as a whistleblower alleged.

The Defense Department had already certified to congressional committees on May 23 that Ukraine had made enough progress on reducing corruption to receive the military assistance. Prior to this hold on aid, the Trump administration had approved aid to Ukraine nearly 50 times without holding it due to concerns about corruptions.

In his July 25 call phone call to Zelenskly, Trump told the Ukrainian President as they discussed military aid, “I would like for you to do us a favor, though” and investigate Joe Biden, his son and Democrats going back to the 2016 US election, referring in part to the discredited conspiracy theory involving Ukraine in that election.

Trump ultimately released the aid, on Sept. 11, when Congress became aware of what he had done. A few days earlier, congressional committees had begun looking into the matter, aware that a whistleblower had a complaint in motion.


TRUMP: “Keep fighting tough, Republicans, you are dealing with human scum who have taken Due Process and all of the Republican Party’s rights away from us.” — tweet Thursday.

THE FACTS: The House is conducting a hearing, not a trial, so no constitutional rights are being violated. Trump would be offered rights the same as those in a criminal trial in later stages of the impeachment process.  This process is unfolding as outlined in the Constitution, giving the House the sole power to impeach and the Senate the sole power to remove a president from office.

Trump currently hasn’t been charged with anything and so has no constitutional right to be represented by a lawyer in this proceeding.  In any future House Judiciary Committee hearings resulting in the drafting of impeachment articles, Trump would be invited to attend with attorneys to question witnesses and object to testimony and evidence.  This is similar to the process in the impeachment proceedings against Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton.

If there is a Senate trial, Trump’s legal team would defend the president against impeachment articles approved by the House in an environment that would look like a typical trial.

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